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Tested with: IC-706, IC-7400
Tested with: IC-706MKIIG, IC-7400
 


=Schematics=
=Schematics=
I've used my favourite USB to serial converter FT232RL in recommended wiring. After many experiments I've found it is not possible to make interface without supply from radio. Radio provides voltage with high impedance. It can work statically but reach real communication speeds is impossible. Supply can be about +5 to +12V . For my purpose best fits +8V from microphone connector (pin 1) next to the CI-V jack.
 
[[Image:Usb2civs120.png|none|frame|Schematics of USB2CIV]]
 
I've used my favourite USB to serial converter FT232RL in recommended wiring. After many experiments I've found it is not possible to make interface without supply from radio. Radio provides voltage through high impedance. It can work statically but reaching real communication speeds is impossible, rise edges are too slow. Supply can be about +5 to +12V . For my purpose best fits +8V from microphone connector (pin 1) next to the CI-V jack (on IC706 family).
 
Solder only one of connectors X1, X2. X1 is standard USB-B female, X2 can be used if you want to use other cable than A-B.
 
=Note=
If communication errors occur during tune, you have to disable CI-V transceive mode. For IC706:
* Turn the radio off
* Press LOCK
* Turn the radio on
* Rotate M-CH knob to menu item '''36 CI-V TRN'''
* Rotate main tunning knob counterclockwise to set '''oFF'''
* Turn radio off and on


=PCB=
=PCB=
<gallery mode="packed" widths="640px">
Image:Usb2civb600.png|PCB of USB2CIV
Image:Usb2civoa.png|Parts side A
Image:Usb2civob.png|Parts side B
</gallery>
=Photos=
<gallery mode="packed" heights="320px">
Image:Usb2civ_1.jpg
Image:Usb2civ_2.jpg
Image:Usb2civ_3.jpg
</gallery>
On the pictures is version for IC-706MKIIG - supply is connected to microphone RJ-45, pin 1.
Used box can be obtained here: http://www.krabicky.cz/plastova-krabicka-km-24.html
=Reachable speed=
I'have tested maximum baudrate of converter. The output delay of PC900V optocoupler is not symmetrical. In the practice at 115200Bd the output signal is good. At 230400Bd one can observe asymmetricity but it should work (tested with converter used as loopback). 460kB does not work.
Unrealised idea for higher speed: try to connect two PC900V's to cascade. Different edge delays should compense. Polarity will be inverted so you have to invert TXD and RXD pin on FT232RL.


=Photos==
Practical speed of CI-V bus is much slower than rates noted above, don't worry :-)

Latest revision as of 20:00, 30 August 2015

Tested with: IC-706MKIIG, IC-7400


Schematics

Schematics of USB2CIV

I've used my favourite USB to serial converter FT232RL in recommended wiring. After many experiments I've found it is not possible to make interface without supply from radio. Radio provides voltage through high impedance. It can work statically but reaching real communication speeds is impossible, rise edges are too slow. Supply can be about +5 to +12V . For my purpose best fits +8V from microphone connector (pin 1) next to the CI-V jack (on IC706 family).

Solder only one of connectors X1, X2. X1 is standard USB-B female, X2 can be used if you want to use other cable than A-B.

Note

If communication errors occur during tune, you have to disable CI-V transceive mode. For IC706:

  • Turn the radio off
  • Press LOCK
  • Turn the radio on
  • Rotate M-CH knob to menu item 36 CI-V TRN
  • Rotate main tunning knob counterclockwise to set oFF
  • Turn radio off and on

PCB

Photos

On the pictures is version for IC-706MKIIG - supply is connected to microphone RJ-45, pin 1.

Used box can be obtained here: http://www.krabicky.cz/plastova-krabicka-km-24.html

Reachable speed

I'have tested maximum baudrate of converter. The output delay of PC900V optocoupler is not symmetrical. In the practice at 115200Bd the output signal is good. At 230400Bd one can observe asymmetricity but it should work (tested with converter used as loopback). 460kB does not work.

Unrealised idea for higher speed: try to connect two PC900V's to cascade. Different edge delays should compense. Polarity will be inverted so you have to invert TXD and RXD pin on FT232RL.

Practical speed of CI-V bus is much slower than rates noted above, don't worry :-)